Heard about this last fall but didn't say anything here...

**VOL61** · November 18th, 2010, 10:03 PM

I am not sure why the FBI would be involved with what happened at Miss. St if it didn't involve Mcgregor and Lowder at Auburn. I mean if this was only about kids getting payed to play football it wouldn't be the first time it has happened. I have never heard of the FBI being involved in those cases before.

But you throw in Mcgregor who is being indicted on buying votes thing and all his gambling ties. Then Lowder who is reportedly being investigated for misuse of Tarp money, and all the other stuff from his banks collaspe. To me the only reason the FBI would be getting with Miss. St. is to confirm what they already think was happening and then go back to question people at Auburn. Hoping they could flip some smaller people into spilling the beans on the Lowder and Mcgregor group.

I don't think anyone knows how this is going to turn out but I don't think it is very unreasonable to think it involves so high ups from Auburn. If you look at everything out there that is the only thing that really makes sense right now....

**VOL61** · November 18th, 2010, 10:17 PM

Originally Posted by Biggin

its also worth mentioning that some info being reported is wrong.

Bond did not meet with Rogers like was initially reported. On the radio, Bond said that he did not directly talk with Rogers and that there were at least two people between them in the chain of information. So its impossible for Rogers to have solicited money directly from Bond.

Rogers talked with Bell about the payment to Newton. Bell is reported to have told Bond to make sure Athlectic department at Miss. St. knew about this. I am sure NCAA will check phone records. They love phone records. Ask coach Pearl.....

Rogers, Bell, Bond, Miss. St. coaching staff, athlectic department, all knew about this. Coaches at Miss. St. said Newton brought it up to them at meeting with them and kenny rogers was there. Joe Schad reported that.

Also if FBI wanted text to Bell Superbeast mentioned. They should have no problem getting that from the service provider. There will be a record of it.

**1inStripes** · November 19th, 2010, 03:04 PM

I understand that a subpeona has been put in by a judge to speed up the process for the wireless provider to retrieve the "lost" text messages.

**Biggin** · November 19th, 2010, 03:09 PM

I just posted that because it was initially reported by ESPN and other places that Bond talked directly to Rogers but Bond denied that.

but yeah, I believe it all comes back to the wiretaps from the financial investigations into Lowder, Colonial Bank and the Awwbarn BOT. Most likely they have caught some of these big AU boosters talking about money and players.

People always gave Logan Young a hard time, but he was NOTHING like Bobby Lowder.

**heneedsa** · November 19th, 2010, 04:06 PM

Anybody remember the old Southwest Conference when at one time five of the eight schools were on probation. I hope this isn't going there. This is getting like an onion the more you peel the more layers there are.

**Biggin** · November 19th, 2010, 05:02 PM

ah the old SWC.

that was Arkansas, SMU, Oklahoma, Texas, Baylor, Ok. State, Rice, Southwestern, Houston, TCU and aTm.

if people think the SEC is bad, the SWC was 100x worse.

at least in the SEC we try to hide our cheating, the SWC was so arrogant they didnt even attempt to hide it

they tried to get LSU and Ole Miss at one time as well, but they stayed in the SEC.